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#101 2008-10-16 03:18:43

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

fma38 wrote:

I can understand your frustation! Not being able to play with your new toy, just because of missing batteries... Try to do that to your chilrdren at Christmas lol

That would be grandchildren in my case:)

fma38 wrote:

About your power supply, you can try it, it may be enough. Motors don't drain much current (150 mA each).

I'll try it - I think a 2A 12V PSU somewhere but I can't lay my hands on it among all the techno-clutter.

fma38 wrote:

About the NPP, start to use the Merlin without too much modifications; except for indoor full-spherical panos, it is not a big problem.

I would like to try indoor sphericals, hence my interest. Is there a problem with fitting a modified crown as you have done?

Is this drawing of Thierry's still the best design? If so, what is the best material?

I think I could find someone locally to make me a crown like this.


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#102 2008-10-16 07:57:26

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

I started to remove the original screw out of the rail, but I broke the little screw at the rear, because it is glued. Klaus, don't know how you removed it without destroying it...


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#103 2008-10-16 14:17:21

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

fma38 wrote:

I started to remove the original screw out of the rail, but I broke the little screw at the rear, because it is glued. Klaus, don't know how you removed it without destroying it...

it´s really a bit of a miracle . . (which fits the wizzard´s hat perfectly cool) - but as i already started to destroy it suddenly it worked without using a hammer . . . maybe in the end there´s a hidden life in gadgeds . . tongue
Ironically i threw it away afterwards anyway . . and used a standard Manfrotto screw which i already had as you can see on the pictures.

best, Klaus

(Papywizard now rund perfectly on the N800 - after Josef fiddeled around with the MiniOS about one and a half day . . Aircable´s documentation is awful . . he had to write each time a serial number into the config file because the transfer to the stick wasn´t accepted - which was indidcated nowhere. He read out signals on a scope to realize that . . . that´s at least what i understood.)

P.S.: besides, Frédéric - did you recognized the speakers behind the camera in my pictures?
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#104 2008-10-16 15:41:02

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

@mediavets: yes you can use that drawing.

I don't remember if the M5 holes are on the good diameter to be used with the Manfrotto rail (I had to make new ones, but I don't know if the drawing is up-to-date). But if you use another rail, you better drill holes for it. But the other dimensions are fine. You will have to remove the original red thin disk (with a cutter blade), and put it on that new crown (no need to put some glue; the old one is enough).

I'll check for the M5 holes, and put that drawing on the APP wiki.

@klausesser: do you plan to make a pano inside the Altec? lol


Frédéric

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#105 2008-10-16 15:52:11

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

fma38 wrote:

@mediavets: yes you can use that drawing.

I don't remember if the M5 holes are on the good diameter to be used with the Manfrotto rail (I had to make new ones, but I don't know if the drawing is up-to-date). But if you use another rail, you better drill holes for it. But the other dimensions are fine. You will have to remove the original red thin disk (with a cutter blade), and put it on that new crown (no need to put some glue; the old one is enough).

I'll check for the M5 holes, and put that drawing on the APP wiki.

Thanks.
.............

Is there special technique to removing the original crown to avoid putting load on the gears?

What is the purpose of the red think disk?

What sort of alloy is best for this new crown - if just aluminium is there not a good chance of stripping the threads in the M5 holes.

I think I would have probably choose to have a custom rail made up for my camera rather than using the Manfrotto rail.


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#106 2008-10-16 16:25:19

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

fma38 wrote:

@klausesser: do you plan to make a pano inside the Altec? lol

No problem - big enough they are . . cool

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#107 2008-10-16 16:34:48

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

I want to see that wink


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#108 2008-10-16 17:44:47

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Does anyone know what spec is for mains adapter for the Merlin head?

The company I bought mine from does not know and does not have mains adapter to test it!

I tried 12V 500ma and that didn't seem to work.

My Merlin was supplied with the battery holders missing - quality control does not seem to be a strong point with the manfacturer, when I ordered my supplier asked me to check whether the bubble level was present on delivery because some had shipped without one - so I want to start doing some testing using a mains adapter until I get the battery holders, I th8ink it may be a while before I get them.

Do you know whether the Merlin can be powered using a mains adapter without the batteries in place?

And finally.....on my head the DC input socket is the middle of the three according to markings on the plastics but the 'manual' supplied with it labels the bottom socket as DC input - anyone know which is correct, or what the outcome would be if one used the wrong socket?

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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan  Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
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#109 2008-10-16 18:20:41

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

mediavets wrote:

Does anyone know what spec is for mains adapter for the Merlin head?

I tried 12V 500ma and that didn't seem to work.


The manual says:

The TeleTrack mount can be powered by 8 AA batteries, an optional 12V DC power supply, or an optional AC adapter.
The mount’s power requirement is 12 volts DC nominal with a maximum voltage of 16 volts and a minimum of 8 volts.

Powering by Rechargeable Battery
For optimal results, we recommend using a portable rechargeable battery like the Dynamo or Dynamo Pro available from
Orion. These DC batteries will power the mount far longer than standard AA batteries. Make sure your rechargeable
battery is tip positive and capable of producing continuous current with a minimum of 2 amps.
If you are using a portable battery like the Orion Dynamo, use the Dynamo’s supplied 12V DC power cable (cigarette lighter
plug on one end, standard 12V DC power plug on the other end) to connect the battery to the “12V DC IN” power jack on
the side of the mount. Make sure the Dynamo’s power switch is in the “on” position after connecting. Power the TeleTrack on
by pressing the red on/off switch to the “on” position.


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#110 2008-10-16 18:20:53

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Yes, you can plug the power supply without the batteries. In fact, I always remove the batteries when I plug it, because I don't know what happens if they stay in the Merlin...

The 2 power connectors are wired together, so no matter which one your are using.

I checked with a 12V/250mA power supply: it works fine. Even with a 9V/200mA.

Are you sure the + is in the center of your connector? Don't worry, you can't burn anything, there is a internal diode to protect inverted supply.


Frédéric

Canon 20D + 17-40/f4 L USM + 70-200/f4 L USM + 50/f1.4 USM + Tokina 10-17 3.5-4.5 AF DX Fisheye
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#111 2008-10-16 19:01:06

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Paul,

You obviously have a somewhat more comprehensive manual than I got.

Frederic,

You must have telekinetic powers - after trying two different 500ma adapters I tried again after your post and now it is working - a mystery.

Thanks guys.

What an irritating sound that Merlin head makes. I have several PTZ video cameras - Sony EVI-D31, Canon VC-C4 and Picturetel PTZ2 - and use them with Internet video servers and they are all much quieter but then they are moving much less mass.


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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan  Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
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#112 2008-10-16 19:18:32

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

mediavets wrote:

You must have telekinetic powers - after trying two different 500ma adapters I tried again after your post and now it is working - a mystery.

It could be a bad contact in the circular connector. There are different diameters with small differences...

What an irritating sound that Merlin head makes. I have several PTZ video cameras - Sony EVI-D31, Canon VC-C4 and Picturetel PTZ2 - and use them with Internet video servers and they are all much quieter but then they are moving much less mass.

Yes, it makes a strange noise. I think this is due to the fact that there are a lot of gears, turning very fast at the motor side, to have a good tork at the output (motors are very small).


Frédéric

Canon 20D + 17-40/f4 L USM + 70-200/f4 L USM + 50/f1.4 USM + Tokina 10-17 3.5-4.5 AF DX Fisheye
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770

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#113 2008-10-16 19:21:59

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

mediavets wrote:

Paul,
You obviously have a somewhat more comprehensive manual than I got.

You have got mail :-)

Paul


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#114 2008-10-16 20:42:10

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Initial test of gentLED_JUMP IR shutter release using the handcontroller to drive the head in Cruise and Shot mode shows that it works with the standard shutter release cable supplied with the head... and, yes. it fires the camera (Nikon D40 in this case but is available for other brands/models).

In Cruise and Shot mode it appears to trigger the IR device twice (based on the red power-on LED lighting on the device) about 1 sec apart for each location. Not sure why, but then I don't know what it does/would do from an electrical point of view with a Canon camera on the end of the wire either. This is not the automatic repeat function of the IR device which is set to a 2.5 sec repeat delay.

Cannot test under Papywizard control yet as I have not put the serial_TTL gadget together yet. I have to buy or borrow a soldering iron.

With the Troniosoft 4201 does it matter much what sort of wire is used to make the link that creates the power-out on serial connector pin 9? Would be nicer if one could simply make that link with a jumper!

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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan  Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
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#115 2008-10-16 21:03:13

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Good to ear it works smile But I hope you will find the reason of double exposure... Ar you sure 1 s is not the default repeat time of the trigger? I've read that you need to open the device to set the delay to 2.5 s...

And no, it does not matter what kind of link you use to power the pin 9; a short wire between the 2 pins or a jumper is fine. Just check you get 5V on the pin 9 before connecting anything.


Frédéric

Canon 20D + 17-40/f4 L USM + 70-200/f4 L USM + 50/f1.4 USM + Tokina 10-17 3.5-4.5 AF DX Fisheye
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770

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#116 2008-10-16 21:16:33

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

fma38 wrote:

Good to ear it works smile But I hope you will find the reason of double exposure... Ar you sure 1 s is not the default repeat time of the trigger? I've read that you need to open the device to set the delay to 2.5 s...

He sent it set to 2.5 sec repeat - I checked. You have to remove the cover to insert the battery anyway. The other repeat option is 0.5 sec. It's the gentLED_AUTO that offers a variable repeat delay.

fma38 wrote:

And no, it does not matter what kind of link you use to power the pin 9; a short wire between the 2 pins or a jumper is fine. Just check you get 5V on the pin 9 before connecting anything.

There are no pins open my unit - I wish there were - so I'll have to add a wire. Looks like I'll need to borrow a voltmeter too.

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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan  Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770 and Windows XP/2K

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#117 2008-10-16 21:27:30

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

mediavets wrote:

He sent it set to 2.5 sec repeat - I checked. You have to remove the cover to insert the battery anyway. The other repeat option is 05 sec. It's the gentLED_AUTO that offers a variable repeat delay.

Strange...

fma38 wrote:

There are no pins open my unit - I wish there were - so I'll have to add a wire.

I found very strange that Tronisoft does not provide the module with that jumper...


Frédéric

Canon 20D + 17-40/f4 L USM + 70-200/f4 L USM + 50/f1.4 USM + Tokina 10-17 3.5-4.5 AF DX Fisheye
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#118 2008-10-20 23:28:09

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Hi Frédéric,

Hmm. This is an interesting forum for us. It is nice to get feedback good/bad - is all good
as it helps us create better products.

Original idea was that devices that don't expect power on pin 9 do not get affected.
However we can provide newer 4201 modules with the jumper and also two free 220 Ohms
resistors when quoting "Papywizard" with the notes during order or via separate email.
Hope that helps.

We have taken on further staff and are now able to take on smaller designs.
We now have moulding capability so can offer a more finished product depending on interest.
We can offer a cleaner solution for your users.

Email me and I will put you in touch with our engineer again.

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#119 2008-10-20 23:41:52

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

That's good news! I will contact you soon...


Frédéric

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#120 2008-10-20 23:47:01

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Tronisoft wrote:

Original idea was that devices that don't expect power on pin 9 do not get affected.
However we can provide newer 4201 modules with the jumper and also two free 220 Ohms
resistors when quoting "Papywizard" with the notes during order or via separate email.
Hope that helps.

Shohid
Tronisoft

I wish I'd known that when I ordered my 4201 just recently.


Andrew
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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan  Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
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#121 2008-10-21 12:01:13

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

My Nokia 770 won't boot up.

Had a system freeze so I disconnected the battery.

When battery replaced it will go as far as the NOKIA blue letters then after a while this flashes off then back on again........that's as much as it will do.

Is it recoverable?

THis is all I could find about similar problems:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forum … php?t=1663


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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan  Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
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#122 2008-10-21 12:56:16

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Well........to answer my own question...

I finally managed to get it to connect in the USB mode for re-flashing by removing the battery and then replacing the battery (battery cover seems to act as switch) with the Home (house) key pressed while attached to USB cable and PC.

So decided to try to re-flash OS2007HE.

That was successful and now it seems to be working again. A bit of a scare there.

So now 'all' I have to do is reinstall Python, Papywizard, the gpe-filemanager and the Load Applet programs and I'll be back to where I started again.

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Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan  Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770 and Windows XP/2K

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#123 2008-10-21 13:02:00

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

fma38 wrote:

Bad news... Did your tried to reflash it (try another firmzware version)?

Yes, as reported in post just before yours.

All seems to be well again.

Hope this doesn't happen again, it was a bit scarey.


Andrew
Nikon D40, Nikkor 10.5mm fisheye, Sigma 8mm f3.5 fisheye, 18-55mm kit lens, Nodal Ninja 5 Lite
Nikon P5100, CP5000, CP995, FC-E8, WC-E63,WC-E68, TC-E2, Kaidan  Kiwi 995, Bophoto pano bracket
Merlin/Orion panohead + Papywizard on Nokia 770 and Windows XP/2K

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#124 2008-10-21 13:02:18

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Can try to follow the wiki documentation, to see if it is correct?


Frédéric

Canon 20D + 17-40/f4 L USM + 70-200/f4 L USM + 50/f1.4 USM + Tokina 10-17 3.5-4.5 AF DX Fisheye
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#125 2008-10-28 13:02:12

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Re: What Hardware Is Required For Merlin Panohead ?

Andrew,

I will come back on your questions about Merlin modification for your material.
Doyou intend to use the Nikon D40 with the optics mentonned on the bottom of yours posts ?

Claude
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