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#1 2009-06-18 09:43:04

DrSlony
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From: Poland, Zielona Góra
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Panoramas of a residence

I was asked to shoot photos inside a house that gets rented out to tourists. It's in Łagów (Poland), a wonderful village situated between two large lakes. As this is the first time I'm shooting these types of shots as a service, I'm not sure how much to charge. How much would you charge for them? You can message me privately if you do not wish to write that info here. Thank you in advance :]

ps. I'm aware of some problems such as different temperature light sources in the same pano, I warned the owners about this beforehand and they were ok with it.



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#2 2009-06-18 09:57:50

Paul
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From: Bonn, Germany
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Re: Panoramas of a residence

just my 2 cents:

looking for a nice place to stay on vacation I don't like this unnatural overstretched fishy pics and the disappointing moment entering the real place feeling squeezed.

didn't the owner want to show 360x180s in natural perspective?


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#3 2009-06-18 10:06:39

DrSlony
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Re: Panoramas of a residence

Nope. If she wanted 360 panos then I wouldn't have had any trouble with the damn projections, or with the prices ;] With some places the problem was that if I didn't resort to a pano, I would have had to have shot e.g. just a bed instead of a whole room. Also, looking at the photos, they mostly do portray the real size of the rooms, except the left wall in 008 which looks long but IRL isn't.

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#4 2009-06-18 14:59:09

Ma Trekker
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From: Aix-les-bains (73) - FRANCE
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Re: Panoramas of a residence

Hi Dr Slony,

Clients are strange sometimes, but, we, photographers must not get into their "fantasy" :
For most of people, as anybody can afford a camera at the youngest age, even a very small camera, everybody is a "photographer".
Yes you are, yes I am, yes they are, yes we are all photographers as well we are all "artists".
BUT : there is a huge difference even so between a yound aged 8 years girl or boy with his camera and a true photographer as you are.

So, remember that you are photographer and even if you are not paid back, YOU MUST produce your best shots EACH TIME. Even if you do you do not get money back.

It's just a matter of "pride" and respect for our work, professional photographers that we are for some of us. A photographer is a kind of artist and he will not be paid as he can pretend, I'm very sorry to tell such things, but if you want to be paid as you deserve it, try to be the best of the world and you will be paid as you merit it. But don't think too much about it, even the very well-knowed photographers were (are) under-paid.

If I may give some critics, I think I would NOT have used a wide(large, big... I don't know the translation in english) angle for that kind of pictures, but rather a 85 mm (3 shots for each picture that you assemble then with APP) to avoid distortions. The light, the colours, the sharpness is good but this lens is not the good one in this case.

It's because I'm a friend to you that I say that.

Best,

Ma

Last edited by Ma Trekker (2009-06-18 15:30:37)


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#5 2009-06-18 19:48:01

DrSlony
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Re: Panoramas of a residence

Thank both of you kindly for your response, I'm new to these kinds of shots and I thought it best to try and have as much of the room visible in a single shot because for me that tells me more about the real size of the place, but then again I am used to seeing 'bent' projections and I forget others are not. I will try to chop up some of the shots into smaller FOV ones to get rid of the projection issues. Next time I will try and shoot at smaller FOVs.

Do you have any ideas how to get, for example, the TV in image 004 to be more 4:3? I really like that composition, as a tourist I can see everything in the room in a single shot, but you are right that the lady renting this house might not like nor understand the fact that the TV is longer than in real life. I could either use a projection that bends, which I really don't want to, or to crop off a part. Speaking for myself as a tourist, I would prefer this whole-room shot to two smaller shots, but as I said I am used to seeing and understanding such projections, others are not. If I chop that photo up, I will have just a bed on one shot, and a TV on the other... that doesn't sound very interesting. I wanted to try using Panini to fix this, but it doesn't run for me. So if you have any ideas, please do tell smile

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#6 2009-06-19 08:27:54

DrSlony
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Re: Panoramas of a residence

I reprojected several panos that bugged me most, or that the people I asked for opinions complained about most, interestingly some really liked what others didnt... It will give the client a bigger choice of what to keep and what to discard.
All comments of course are welcome, especially negative constructive criticism.


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#7 2009-06-19 22:54:36

kzaugg
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Re: Panoramas of a residence

If it means anything....I would stay there in a heart beat.  I think these do a great job of selling the atmosphere and the charm of this house.  I am not bothered by the distortion of these pictures.  I showed this to a co-worker and they agreed the place looked awesome, but did not like the distortion.....just two opinions.

I am afraid I don't have any idea on how to price something like this, but it is obvious that this is professional level work.  Maybe estimate how many hours you have into the project, and baseline it by an hourly wage?  (You can tell I have been a consultant for many years) :-)

That stove is very cool, I can't say I have ever used anything like that.  Is it gas?  I don't see any nobs.

Good luck,

Kendall

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#8 2009-06-19 23:38:31

mediavets
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From: Isleham, Cambridgeshire, UK.
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Re: Panoramas of a residence

kzaugg wrote:

I think these do a great job of selling the atmosphere and the charm of this house.  I am not bothered by the distortion of these pictures. 
Kendall

I agree.

WRT pricing - since you didn't fix a fee beforehand I think you'll just have to accept whatever the client is willing and able to pay.


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